I’m not American. Roe vs Wade didn’t give my fellow citizens the right to sovereignty over their own bodies. I’m from a place where these rights don’t exist and where an adult woman is valued only as much as a fertilised egg that implants inside her. I’m from a place where women are left to die in easily-preventable agony to serve the principle of ‘life’. A country that attempts to prevent suicidal children who have survived abuse only to become pregnant from leaving the country. Somewhere that forces women to carry their dead and dying fetuses to term against their wishes. A country that says that no risk short of a woman’s almost certain death is a valid reason to allow her to terminate a pregnancy- which is, by the way, largely to blame for the death of Dr Savita Halappanavar. No other risk to her health and well-being, no matter how severe, painful and permanent. Nothing but certain death.
I come from a country where the moment you become pregnant your life ceases to be your own and becomes the state’s. The only recourse we have- hundreds of thousands of women in a country of only four million citizens- is to leave.
“Don’t go into that place.” Shaking her head, “Don’t go in there. They’re just going to take your money, kill your baby, and put you back out here to a lifetime of regret.”
Really? I mean, does she think the client doesn’t know it’s the abortion clinic? Does she think the client thinks it’s free?
As for “killing your baby,” clearly a fetus is not the same as “a baby,” but it makes me think of the woman I escorted to the clinic back in the summer ~ or it could have been last summer. English was not her first language, and it wasn’t clear, even to me, whether she was going to the abortion clinic or the anti-clinic.
The client was confused by the protesters talking at her, and me talking, and she was trying to listen to two or three of them at the same time, so I quit trying to talk, just tried to make eye contact and waited. They continued talking at her, and finally one of them said, “Don’t go there, don’t go to that clinic, they’re going to kill your baby.”
And the client said, loudly and firmly, with great relief, “Yes! That is the one,” and added, nodding, “Kill my baby. That one.”
“a candidate for sheriff in New Hampshire said Wednesday that he would be willing to use deadly force to prevent a woman from terminating her pregnancy”
i’m hanging somewhere between absolute rage and sobbing uncontrollably.
This is not pro-life.
d-do they not … how can … this … no
Bu… how… wh.
i thought this was a joke
so does like
so does this person think babies grown in a sac outside the mother or…?
Wait. Then what if he uses deadly force on a woman planning to terminate, and then he kills her, like, wouldn’t he kill the fetus too? What the heck would the deadly force be for then?
Oh wait I am logicking. Never mind.
It’s because, whether he admits it or not, what he’s using deadly force for isn’t to prevent a damn thing. It’s to punish. Because he feels it’s his place to step up and punish people (all women, in his eyes, which is a large portion of the motivation here) who are daring not to use their bodies the way he believes they should be used.
Just like the rest of the “pro-life” movement, it’s not about preventing abortion, it’s about punishing people with pregnancy.
…imagine that your parents had the same belief and you were aborted. Would you support it then? I guess we wouldn’t know because you wouldn’t live a life to have an opinion if that happened.
This is just another example of liberal hypocrisy.
My mother is pro-choice….
I was born in 1985, 13 years after abortion became legal in the US. My mother is, and always was afaik, pro-choice. She CHOSE to have my brother and I. How is it “liberal hypocrisy” to acknowledge that people deserve choices? It’s sort of right there on the label of the movement. CHOICE. Including the choice to give birth and parent if that’s what you want.
I always laugh when people pull this “your mother was pro-life!” bullshit, because this is my mother who, when I had a pregnancy scare at 15 and my dad found out and swore he’d keep me locked in the house for 9 months to make sure I didn’t abort his grandkid (ew), privately told me not to worry about that, she’d get me to the clinic when he was out of town if need be.
This is my mother who, when I did have an unwanted pregnancy in college, went with me to my appointment and took care of me afterward with my favorite foods and movies all weekend.
Mind you, when I called her and told her I was pregnant, she in no way encouraged any particular decision. I said “Mom, I’m pregnant.” She was quiet for a moment, then calmly asked in an absolutely neutral tone, “Okay. What do you want to do about it?” Okay so I snorted and was like “…the fuck do you think I want to do about it? I’ve already called PP.” (I’m childfree by choice and have been saying I don’t want kids whenever someone asked since I was 12.) There’s that funny CHOICE thing again.
But the point is, being “for abortion” doesn’t have a damn thing to do with what a person might choose to do with their own pregnancy.
PS: pontificating on the potential opinions of the never-born is one of the most ridiculous “tactics” (and I use the term loosely) I’ve seen from your side in awhile. How is that even relevant? It’s purely speculative by definition, and talking out your ass on what you believe some nebulous potential life might have eventually come to believe about the circumstances that brought them into being, is not particularly effective as a debate strategy.
Either you believe abortion should be legal and we need to protect access to safe, compassionate, and confidential abortion services, full stop, or you want to fall right down the slippery slope of moral relativism and directly into the hands of conservatives. You do not need to justify abortion because a pregnancy endangers the life of a patient, because a pregnancy is the result of rape, because you think certain people shouldn’t be allowed to have children, because you think a fetus carries disabilities, or for any other reason.
The real money quote:
Every time a progressive justifies abortion, one of those horrid ‘lamenting the preborn killed by pinko commie scum’ websites gets another set of animated sparkling angel wings and a dreadful midi.
Please, won’t someone think of the web design?
Just FYI to everyone in Tallahassee, specifically FSU: The planners that the school has been handing out has a coupon for one of the crisis pregnancy centers in town. DO NOT GO TO THIS CLINIC.
I REPEAT: DO NOT GO TO THIS CLINIC. IT IS A CRISIS PREGNANCY CENTER.
Excuse my ignorance, but what’s a crisis pregnancy centre?
A Crisis Pregnancy Center is a (usually) religious, pro-life institution that claims to offer pregnancy healthcare (only to cis-women) but in reality exists to convince, shame, and in some cases harass pregnant people into carrying a fetus to term and giving it up for adoption. They do not discuss abortion as an option and they are not qualified to offer thereputic or medical services in most cases.
To be specific about that harassment thing: they have a documented history of outright lying to “patients” about whether they’re pregnant or how far along they are, forcibly keeping people trapped in their “exam” rooms to be bombarded with propaganda, telling “patients” (if non-Christian) that they’re going to hell, deliberately setting up shop as near to actual reproductive services clinics as they can (like next door or right across the street) and choosing names as close to the actual clinic’s name as possible in order to try to trick people into coming to the wrong office then pulling their usual “hold them here” trick to make people miss their actual appointments, pulling people in “just for an ultrasound before your appointment” and convincing them to have a drink of water or something which means they can no longer have their abortion (surgical abortions require that you come in on an empty stomach apparently), tracking down people’s work and home numbers and family members’ contact info to try to shame/harass them into keeping their pregnancy, and my favorite one, where a woman had an abortion but had gotten suckered into a CPC beforehand, received a fake-bloody “birthday” card every year around when she would have had the baby. Because harassing someone for years past the point when it could have changed anything is so pro-life, amirite?
Republican candidate for Hillsborough County Sheriff, Frank Szabo, said today that he would arrest any doctor performing elective abortions in his jurisdiction. Further, he wouldn’t be opposed to using deadly force:
“I would respond specifically by saying that if someone is under threat, a full-grown human being, if they’re under threat, what should the sheriff do? Everything in their power to prevent them from being harmed,” he said.
When pressed about what he would do if he learned that a doctor was about to perform an elective abortion, Szabo replied he would do what it took to prevent that from happening.
“Absolutely,” he said. “Well, I would hope that it wouldn’t come to that, as with any situation where someone is in danger, but again, specifically talking about elective abortions and late-term abortions, that is an act that needs to be stopped.”
Even if the abortion was legal in the state of New Hampshire, Szabo says that as sheriff, he would not need to answer to any higher authority or public official.
While Szabo has no law enforcement background, he claims his business experience qualifies him for the job.
Are lots of fetuses making 911 calls these days?
I mean, I knew cell phone owning kids were getting younger and younger, but GEEZ.
How precisely does one go about arresting someone who isn’t doing anything illegal?
He doesn’t intend to arrest them. He intends to shoot them in the head under the guise of “deadly force” because they are a threat to fetuses.
You can’t arrest someone if you kill them.
I just want to reiterate something that I did not put in my original reblog: This guy is a terrorist and he is running for a position in which he would be given weapons and the authority to use them.
This man is a terrorist. His goal is to scare and threaten abortion providers up to the point of killing them in order to stop them from providing abortions.
He is a terrorist.
Michigan Call to Action
Tomorrow, the GOP-led Michigan Senate will vote on the nation’s cruelest anti-choice bill, HB 5711. If signed by Republican governor Rick Snyder, this bill would force people who have abortions to pay for the burial, cremation, or internment of any fetus 10 weeks or older. For fetuses at 20 weeks gestation, a death certificate would be required, which could expose the patient to the public.
Additionally, the bill bans abortions via telemedicine, limiting access to safe, legal abortion for people living hours from their nearest clinic. It also requires physicians to purchase $1 million in liability insurance if they perform six or more abortions per month, and for clinics to have a full surgical suite, even if the clinic doesn’t offer surgical abortion.
What can you do to stop this bill? If you’re outside Michigan, you can sign this petition demanding the senators vote no on HB 5711. For those in Michigan, you can call your senator today and tell them the same.
If this bill is passed tomorrow, clinics in Michigan could be regulated out of existence - the financial burden placed by anti-choicers could simply be too much to bear. If this happens, people in Michigan will need your help accessing safe, legal abortion. The Abortion Assistance Blog has already had three offers of transportation, two for lodging, and one for child care in Michigan, but we will always need more. If you or someone you know can help the people of Michigan, contact AAB through the Ask or Submit boxes, email (email@example.com) or Twitter (@prochoicehelp).
Woman walking into an abortion clinic gives Flying Spaghetti Monster pamphlet to anti-choice protester. Anti-choicer assaults her. Woman calls police, gets abortion, then blogs about the experience.
I am in awe of this flawless human being.