a haiku for trans-exclusionary feminists
you call yourself a
“radical,” but you talk like
Casual reminder that women
and Queer people
and ESPECIALLY POC
who defend themselves against oppressive violence will always be punished in the extreme for doing so.
Because oppressed people aren’t supposed to fight back.
Because the people in charge get scared as fuck when oppressed people fight back.
Because there are more of us than there is of them.
especially trans women of colour.
I really, really wanted to vote for Elizabeth Warren.
But then she went and said this bullshit:
Democratic Senate candidate Elizabeth Warren said today she disagrees with a federal judge’s decision to grant a convicted killer’s request for a sex-change operation.
“I have to say, I don’t think it’s a good use of taxpayer dollars,” Warren, a Harvard Law School professor, said in an interview on WTKK-FM.
US District Court Chief Judge Mark L. Wolf granted the sex-change operation for Michelle Kosilek, ruling Tuesday that the treatment is the only adequate remedy for the inmate’s gender identity disorder. Wolf said the only arguments for denying the operation were based on public bias against the surgery.
This says a lot about how Elizabeth Warren actually feels about the humane, ethical treatment of trans people (trans women especially) and prisoners. Even when numerous medical experts support Michelle Kosilek receiving her sugery, Elizabeth Warren steps in to champion cissexism.
Fuck you, Elizabeth Warren.
His new dating site went live and I commented on a blog post about it pointing out that he’s a bullying, transmisogynist, racist ass. Specifically, they described it as a “safe environment”, and I said it wasn’t going to be a safe environment for a lot of people because he’s a douchebubble. I linked to a post with a few other links, but someone else is saying they “didn’t see anything transmisogynist to warrant your accusation”. So I’m wondering if anyone has more/better sources specifically about transmisogyny and Buck Angel? (I linked this post btw) (though if that’s not enough I’m not sure how much of a shit I give about that person’s opinion…)
Also I was then replied to by a disqus user purporting to be Buck Angel himself, and who the hell knows how legit that is, but the tone of it seemed about right.
That is soooooooo old! Can’t you find something new to talk about. It is so very sad that you keep putting so much effort into making me the bad guy. Well guess what it is not working. So maybe now you should take that energy and try to make the world a better place, or maybe look in the mirror and smile at yourself.
I have admitted to saying things that I did not know better at the time. I have since learned to think before I speak and to also learn about things before I make a comment. I have made apologies to people I have offended and moved on. It is time to do the same.
Have a wonderful life and please make and effort my friend.
Way to be a condescending ass, there, bro. Cute. Sort of sad, though.
Reducing the mind-bogglingly huge array of ways in which trans women are discriminated against in lesbian social spaces to “trans women want to force lesbians to suck dick.” There are no words for how arrogant and ignorant that is.
Please don’t forget the enormous degree of entitlement involved here. A key part of being a member of an oppressing class is that you get to decide for the people you oppress what they mean when they say something.
So when they take “I really think it would be nice if you would stop saying I’m unfuckable in private” and turn it into “you said I had to fuck you!”, they are literally demonstrating a sense of entitlement to define your life, your words, and your feelings.
This shows that they firmly believe they know more about you than you do — and they just want you to accept the truth as they speak it.
This is oppression in its most raw form, and at its most personal.
Not to mention it completely erases/disregards the trans women who have had complete surgery and no longer have dicks to suck.
Hate to tell you this, but phantom dick is just as good as real dick for trans-haters.
Now, now. It’s not a “phantom dick”. It’s an “etheric dick”. [TW on link for transmisogyny/pagan radscum] Gosh, Wids, get your terminology right. :-P
It’s not appropriation. It makes sense, doesn’t perpetuate any harmful ideals or stereotypes, and doesn’t detract power from the term lesbian.
All it means to be a political lesbian is to put female relations above relations with men in priority. It’s nothing to do with homosexuality, but all to do with lesbianism- which is about female relations with other females and an amount of exclusivity towards males.
It’s appropriation when men call themselves lesbians- be they frat boys or transwomen. It’s also stupid. Lesbianism is without men, in any of their forms.
You’re simplifying the word lesbian down to mean female homosexuality, or warping the word to mean something entirely less powerful by including transwomen (males) who call themselves lesbians under the definition. It’s disrespectful, and you clearly have no idea what you’re talking about.
As a lesbian, I’m asking you to stop pretending to speak in defense of lesbians (or the word lesbian)- but I don’t think you’ll care. You appropriate the word feminist as well and your entire blog makes it clear you have very little respect for females, let alone lesbians.
It adds to the stereotype that lesbians are all men haters. If you want to defend political whatever that’s your opinion, but it does feed into destructive stereotypes for both lesbians, and feminists.
And a transwomen who is attracted to other women has every right to call herself a lesbian. After all she is a woman and she is female. That is not opinion that is fact. No matter what cissexist assholes say that is never going to change.
Not all political lesbians are man-haters; I’m not a huge fan of separatism, but being a woman who wants to go off and live in a commune free of men is fine.
What’s not fine:
- calling a trans woman (I know it’s annoying but put a space between “trans” and “woman” so we don’t needlessly third-gender these ladies) stupid when she identifies as a lesbian. I don’t see any radfems losing their shit over trans men identifying as gay, so cut this transmisogynistic bullshit now kplzthx.
- During the 80s porn wars non-political lesbians were bashed and censored disproportionately for their media; hello hypocrisy.
Political lesbianism is grossly disrespectful towards actual lesbians, be we cis or trans. Political lesbianism brazenly appropriates our sexual orientation as a political statement, and then turns social justice on its head by accusing real lesbians of “appropriating” when we seek to restore our term for our sexuality.
I…I don’t even…what? What the everloving fuck have I just read? JFC.
It’s nothing to do with homosexuality, but all to do with lesbianism- which is about female relations with other females and an amount of exclusivity towards males.
You’re simplifying the word lesbian down to mean female homosexuality
As a lesbian, I’m asking you to stop pretending to speak in defense of lesbians (or the word lesbian)- but I don’t think you’ll care.
(Also why do you get to pretend to speak in defense of lesbians/the word lesbian, but other lesbians who disagree with you apparently wouldn’t be allowed to if they disagree with you?
You appropriate the word feminist as well and your entire blog makes it clear you have very little respect for females, let alone lesbians.
Radscum, ladies, gentlemen, and other folks.
only in crazy trans land is the woman accosted by the trans woman, in an encounter admittedly instigated by the trans woman, ”the hostile one.”
Ms. Brennan, we can watch the video. We can see and hear who’s being hostile. Only in your cis-privileged world is initiating a conversation while trans* in and of itself an act of hostility, an “attack”, an “assault”.
Especially when the conversation involves putting away a sign that is creating a hostile environment for a whole segment of lesbians. But the holder of the sign WANTS the hostility - she feeds off of it and uses it to justify her persecution of innocent children.
We will never, ever forget that she’s busy outing people regardless of their age and regardless of their ability to fight back.
Okay… So speaking to someone in a calm, rational manner while they’re flipping their shit and screaming at you and everyone else who dares to disagree is totally an ‘assault’
It is now painfully obvious that Brennan is using the exact same playbook as the Phelps cult.
Its interesting how this puts utter lie to her claim that she has no problem with inclusivity, as long as its in its own spaces. How is coming to a space that is explicitly designed to be inclusive of all women, trans and cis, with material that is intended to upset a portion of those women and to try and make them feel unsafe in their space any different that what she accuses trans women of on a regular basis? The irony of Cathy Brennan, self-appointed defender of “wombyn born wombyn” space, being told by an event organizer that she is disrespecting the space and making it unsafe then trying to spin it as an attack not just on her but on all those whom she claims to defend is not lost on most of us.
Those with nothing but a set of weak premises masking their intentions project those intentions on others. Brennan, and most of the anti-trans radfems I have ever dealt with, do little else. She spun this as an assault because she sees herself as assaulting trans* women. She feels that assault is justified, but knows that admitting to it would mean losing a certain credibility with the privileged cis folk who have nothing to lose if she wins.
I have longer thoughts about how there is a bit too much focus on Brennan the individual and not what she and her ilk represent as far as our larger culture and specifically how we reproduce systems of oppression in marginalized communities, but its not fully formed yet.
Yes, exactly. The people who tells us that trans* people need to respect “womyn-born-womyn” spaces do not respect spaces that include trans* people. Whether it’s Cathy Brennan making people feel unsafe at a Dyke March that specifically includes trans* people or dirtywhiteboi making people feel unsafe by infiltrating trans* mailing lists to mock trans* people, these are not people who ‘respect’ rules that they don’t like. They see their cause as a higher purpose that exempts them from giving the respect they demand and see their assaults and attacks as righteous actions because trans* people aren’t fully human, aren’t deserving of the respect one gives actual people. They cloak this because they understand that obvious transphobia is playing less and less well with unconvinced cis people and because, at least in a feminist and/or lesbian framing, being the supposed victim of oppression while still being privileged is an effective tactic to confuse and bewilder people.
I wrote them a few days ago. Here’s the response I just got.
First of all, I would like to personally thank you for your suggestions and thoughts on the Trans Health Initiative Program here at the Feminist Health Center. As an organization dedicated toserving our community, we take your questions and concerns very seriously and with much thought. As a direct result of your feedback there has been much discussion in regards to our services provided and the demographics we serve.
To clarify any misunderstood details,the Feminist Health Center is a gynecological clinic. Our mission statement, which can be found on our websiteat www.feministcenter.org, is to “to provide accessible, comprehensive gynecological healthcare to all who need it without judgment.” Thus, we operate and have the capacity to first and foremost meet the medical needs of those seeking gynecological services. Besides those focused programs, we are happy to meet any other needs to the best of our abilities.
Specifically regarding trans healthcare, we are proud to offer various gynecological services including lower exams, colposcopies, wellness lab work, and biopsies as well as testosterone hormone replacement therapy. This program dedicated to trans men was created 12 years ago with support from Lola Cola, partner of Robert Eads of the documentary film “Southern Comfort.” Regardless of gender identity and/or sexual identity, we are happy to provideHIV, STI/STD testing, counseling and referrals. The Trans Health Initiative is not a “partner” but rather an additional program of our Center. Because of our limited capacities of wide-range healthcare services as a gynecological clinic, we are not equipped to serve the specific medical needs of trans women, cisgendered males or estrogen hormone replacement therapy. Thus, our reasons for not offering hormone replacement therapy for trans women are because we are not currently able as a clinic to provide that type of care. However, we are more than happy to welcome any person of any gender identity and/ or sexual identity into our clinic and offer them the best support we can, including referrals to doctors and community organizations. In addition, we are equipped to assist with physician-ordered lab work for trans women who are on hormone replacement therapy.
FWHC is working to move beyond gender binaries and conflating “woman” to “person with a uterus.” As a result of your feedback we are re-evaluating and revising our website and other marketing materials to be more inclusive and more clear about who we are able to serve. At the same time, we have to walk a fine line between moving beyond biological essentialism and gender binaries and speaking the language of our clients. We have to “meet people where they are at” so that we can move forward together.
As a clinic and organization, we are dedicated to our community and having conversations tobroaden our commitment to inclusivity. Unfortunately, the issue of concern is not something that can be fixed overnight. We hope to continue down this “progressive road” with your support and suggestions. Roadblocksthat include funding and expanding our staff are issues that limit us in our scope of provided services. Rest assured, we take your concerns to heart and we are going to continue this conversation in the clinic and in the community. Thank you for your patience and time—-I apologize for the lengthy email but we highly value these concerns and hope to continue to foster this conversation with you in reaching our goals.
*I just want to note that the formatting of this email made it obvious that it was a cut-and-paste response.
Because no trans women need gynecological services, amirite? /sarcasm
The level of their ignorance about the medical needs of trans women is impressive and all too sadly typical of medical people. *eyeroll*
Just to clarify for readers who may not be familiar with the technical details, hormone replacement therapy for CAMAB trans* people (and a substantial subset of CAMAB intersex people) is in fact nearly identical to hormone replacement therapy for post-menopausal cis women. It’s literally impossible for a gynecological clinic to “not be capable of providing that type of care”.
What makes this especially infuriating is that they do provide hormone replacement therapy for CAFAB trans* people, which is completely different from any form of care offered to women. In other words, this women’s clinic is willing to specially train their healthcare personnel to provide trans men with exotic drugs which are totally outside their normal practice as a women’s clinic, but they arbitrarily refuse to provide trans women with routine medications which they are already fully set up for.
That’s transmisogyny right there.
Thank you for the clarification, especially about how they trained their personnel to do testosterone-based HRT while claiming they can’t do the HRT they should be doing for any post-menopausal cis women who need it who are clients. Totally transmisogyny.
And you know what, if they want to claim “just a gyno clinic”, okay, fine, whatever. But then maybe you need to rename yourself to make that clear, instead of “feminist health center” which, gee, sounds like a health center for women? Which means more than just gyno care? Talk about reducing oneself to one’s reproductive organs.
Kill it with fire.
Seriously, I despise these people. So damn much.
Sent a “submission” saying, basically, “Dear non-cis people, I’m sorry these people are being bigoted fucking assholes. Also, Dear Dear Non-Cis People, wtf do you mean “this is an outlet for people who might not otherwise have one”?? Have you never heard of “the entire rest of the internet and the world”?”
Doubt it’ll get published. I wonder if reporting them for hate speech would do any good? (Probably not; this is tumblr staff we’re talking about here.)
Depressed but not surprised. The same trans-misogynistic garbage is happening at PantheaCon again. Z and the Amazon Priestess Tribe both crapping on trans women. We will not be hurt as much by the hate of our enemies as the silence of our friends.
In the con program the Amazon Priestess Tribe has a ritual for “Skyclad Women Only” (read: women who have socially-normative genitals), and Z Budapest is giving a “Sacred Body of Women” ritual (and guess which women AREN’T “sacred” to her).
……. guuuuuhhhh LASJE;LIRJAWLKEJRKAJ
…is it just me, or is “skyclad women only” a really goddamn weird way to specify the genitals required to enter the space? Because unless “skyclad” has other meanings or nuances of meaning I’ve never encountered, it just means the state of being ritually nude. Which does not, in and of itself, require any particular kind of genitals. Is a trans woman not considered skyclad if she’s naked in a ritual space alongside cis women who are also in said state? Is “skyclad” going to become the new “women-born-women” or something? I’m trying to make this make sense here and it just…won’t. Like, even less sense than transmisogyny can usually be made to make. o.0